I’ve met a lot of spiritual types - gurus, psychics, healers - when I was interviewing on Wisdom Television. They write books. And that was the subject of my show.

They were all sincere people but sometimes I felt like I had to pull them out of the stratosphere with a rope so “ordinary” people could understand what they were saying.

My standard pep talk was -

“We are not preaching to the choir here. Picture a guy sitting on his couch in his underwear drinking a can of Bud. He’s our audience. If we don’t reach him, we have failed.”

I accidently met that guy. He was leaning against a building next to the post office drinking a can of Bud at 11 AM. Working on a construction project.

He called out to me as I was leaving my car. “Hey, television lady!”

Surprised. “Do you watch my show?”

“Never miss it.” My God, my story was real.

Tom Stine, one of my favorite bloggers, had a real spiritual teacher on a podcast this week. His name is Larry Melton.

His subject is “Awakening.”

He had never joined an ashram in Tibet or lived in a cave or wore saffron robes. He was as authentic as the construction worker. He worked every day, had a wife and children and he spoke truth in a way anyone could understand.

It was a long interview but I could not tear myself away from it because this teacher spoke from his heart to my heart.

Just to give you an idea, I wrote down some of his phrases I wanted to remember.

Speaking of meditation. “Life is a meditation.”

The questions we should ask ourselves. “Who am I?” and “What is really true?”

“The only thing you know is that you don’t know.”

“Awakening is just relaxing. Falling back to your true nature.”

“Awakening is not dependent on mystical experiences.”

“Being in love with what is.”

“The human mind wants to find something wrong and fix it.”

I’d tell you more but I don’t want to spoil your experience with an extraordinary teacher.

We don’t need a rope to bring this gentle, loving soul back down to earth. He is grounded in reality while living a spiritual life.

Go over when you have time to Tom’s site and listen for yourself or if you rather, he will send you a transcript so you can study it little by little.

“Awakening” does not sound so complicated now. Maybe you and I can do it.

Even the guy with the can of Budweiser would get it right away.

To hear for yourself, just click.

Tom’s interview with Larry Melton